Players Biography





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Biography

John Dickinson by Alex Service

John Dickinson, universally known to everyone as ‘Todder’ signed for the Saints after captaining the successful Parr High School team. He also represented Lancashire Schoolboys. Before he was 18 Todder had played in virtually all the back divisions for the First Team, but stand-off was probably his best position. He served in the RAF during his National Service and a fair assessment of his all-round ability at such a young age could be found in the St.Helens Newspaper in September 1951, after he had impressed against Barrow and their star stand-off Willie Horne in particular: “Against a man who has captained England in Test Match football, Dickinson coolness, courage and resource, playing well to his centres, tackling well in defence and above all backing up at every opportunity for the odd chance.”
Todder made a total of 160 appearances for his home-town team, scoring 42 tries. Reliable and rugged, Todder played for England against France in 1956, a year which he will never forget for the wrong reasons. A knee injury ruled him out of the Challenge Cup final at Wembley picked up seven days before at Thrum Hall, ironically against the future opponents, Halifax, in the Championship semi-final. Bill Finnan stepped in to the stand-off role at Wembley.

Todder moved on to Leigh, initially, before joining his former Saints coach Jim Sullivan at Rochdale Hornets. A tremendously popular character, Todder later became a successful coach with the Pilkington Recreation amateur team. He succeeded another former Saints stand-off, Peter Metcalfe, to the position and was instrumental in triggering off a boom era for the famous old club at City Road. A member of the Saints’ Past Players Association, he remains an affable and knowledgeable figure amongst both Saints and Recs fans!



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John Dickinson : Season Stats

Season (Official Matches)TriesGoalsDGoalsMatches
1950~510 0 0 2
1951~523 2 0 23
1952~53 12 0 0 29
1953~546 0 0 29
1954~556 0 0 18
1955~566 0 0 21
1956~579 0 0 36
1957~58 0 0 0 2
TOTALS:42 2 0 160

Season (Other Matches)TriesGoalsDGoalsMatches
1950~51 1001
1951~520002
1952~53 1002
1953~541001
1954~551001
1956~570001
TOTALS:4008

W/D/LPosDateOpponentsCompSeasonVenueFTFTOTGDGNPS**
L 6 18th Apr 1951 Huddersfield L 1950~51 H 9 14 0 0 0 View
L 6 25th Apr 1951 Leigh L 1950~51 A 7 10 0 0 0 View
W 6 30th Apr 1951 Players Union * Fr 1950~51 H 45 38 1 0 0 View
L 7 1st Sep 1951 Belle Vue Rangers LC1(1) 1951~52 H 4 8 0 0 0 View
W 6 22nd Sep 1951 Barrow L 1951~52 H 16 3 1 1 0 View
W 7 29th Sep 1951 Warrington L 1951~52 A 19 13 1 1 0 View
L 7 6th Oct 1951 Hull L 1951~52 H 10 15 0 0 0 View
W 7 13th Oct 1951 Halifax L 1951~52 A 20 9 0 0 0 View
L 7 27th Oct 1951 Workington Town L 1951~52 A 8 11 0 0 0 View
W 7 3rd Nov 1951 Rochdale Hornets L 1951~52 H 5 2 0 0 0 View
L 7 24th Nov 1951 Dewsbury L 1951~52 A 2 6 0 0 0 View
W 7 1st Dec 1951 Widnes L 1951~52 H 14 3 0 0 0 View
L 7 15th Dec 1951 Salford L 1951~52 H 6 14 0 0 0 View
L 7 22nd Dec 1951 Salford L 1951~52 A 0 5 0 0 0 View
W 6 1st Jan 1952 Leigh L 1951~52 H 9 0 1 0 0 View
L 6 5th Jan 1952 Belle Vue Rangers L 1951~52 H 5 6 0 0 0 View
W 6 12th Jan 1952 Batley L 1951~52 H 22 2 0 0 0 View
L 6 19th Jan 1952 Whitehaven L 1951~52 A 5 7 0 0 0 View
L 6 2nd Feb 1952 Whitehaven L 1951~52 H 6 7 0 0 0 View
W 4 16th Feb 1952 Belle Vue Rangers CC1(2) 1951~52 A 9 4 0 0 0 View
W 3 23rd Feb 1952 Huddersfield L 1951~52 H 37 13 0 0 0 View
W 1 1st Mar 1952 Liverpool City L 1951~52 A 31 6 0 0 0 View
L 4 22nd Mar 1952 Batley L 1951~52 A 5 16 0 0 0 View
L 6 29th Mar 1952 Oldham L 1951~52 H 6 10 0 0 0 View
L 3 14th Apr 1952 Huddersfield L 1951~52 A 15 34 0 0 0 View
L 6 26th Apr 1952 Barrow L 1951~52 A 8 12 0 0 0 View
L 6 30th Apr 1952 Toulouse* Fr Tour 1951~52 A 5 31 0 0 0 View
W 6 4th May 1952 French XIII* Fr Tour 1951~52 F 27 24 0 0 0 View
L 6 18th Aug 1952 Barrow * Fr Ward Cup 1952~53 A 18 32 0 0 0 View
W 2 10th Sep 1952 Oldham L 1952~53 H 6 2 0 0 0 View
L 2 13th Sep 1952 Workington Town L 1952~53 H 9 15 0 0 0 View
W 2 20th Sep 1952 Keighley L 1952~53 A 27 7 0 0 0 View
W 2 23rd Sep 1952 Rochdale Hornets LC2 1952~53 H 31 7 0 0 0 View
W 2 27th Sep 1952 Australia Tour 1952~53 H 26 8 1 0 0 View
W 2 4th Oct 1952 Castleford L 1952~53 H 18 17 1 0 0 View
W 2 14th Oct 1952 Warrington LCSF 1952~53 A 17 10 1 0 0 View
W 2 1st Nov 1952 Swinton L 1952~53 A 14 7 1 0 0 View
W 7 8th Nov 1952 Barrow L 1952~53 A 14 7 0 0 0 View
W 7 6th Dec 1952 Workington Town L 1952~53 A 22 5 0 0 0 View
W 7 13th Dec 1952 Barrow L 1952~53 H 26 9 0 0 0 View
W 7 20th Dec 1952 Widnes L 1952~53 A 7 2 0 0 0 View
W 7 25th Dec 1952 Leigh L 1952~53 A 22 2 0 0 0 View
W 7 26th Dec 1952 Wigan L 1952~53 H 5 0 0 0 0 View
W 7 27th Dec 1952 Wakefield Trinity L 1952~53 A 20 11 2 0 0 View
D 7 1st Jan 1953 Leigh L 1952~53 H 9 9 0 0 0 View
W 7 3rd Jan 1953 Rochdale Hornets L 1952~53 H 37 5 0 0 0 View
W 7 17th Jan 1953 Bramley L 1952~53 H 52 14 0 0 0 View
W 6 31st Jan 1953 Castleford L 1952~53 A 8 0 1 0 0 View
W 7 7th Mar 1953 Wakefield Trinity L 1952~53 H 69 17 1 0 0 View
W 2 18th Mar 1953 Whitehaven L 1952~53 A 17 15 1 0 0 View
W 4 21st Mar 1953 Whitehaven L 1952~53 H 26 10 1 0 0 View
W 7 3rd Apr 1953 Wigan L 1952~53 A 16 5 0 0 0 View
D 5 6th Apr 1953 Huddersfield L 1952~53 A 10 10 0 0 0 View
W 3 11th Apr 1953 Belle Vue Rangers L 1952~53 H 38 9 0 0 0 View
W 3 13th Apr 1953 Keighley L 1952~53 H 29 12 1 0 0 View
W 3 18th Apr 1953 Oldham L 1952~53 A 14 13 0 0 0 View
W 7 2nd May 1953 Huddersfield ChSF 1952~53 H 46 0 1 0 0 View
W 7 7th May 1953 Halifax ChF 1952~53 N 24 14 0 0 0 View
W 7 16th May 1953 Workington / Whitehaven* Fr Benefit 1952~53 A 53 26 1 0 0 View
W 7 8th Aug 1953 Barrow* Fr Ward Cup 1953~54 H 29 20 1 0 0 View
W 7 15th Aug 1953 Liverpool City L 1953~54 A 46 0 1 0 0 View
D 7 22nd Aug 1953 Widnes L 1953~54 A 11 11 0 0 0 View
W 7 26th Aug 1953 Barrow L 1953~54 H 23 10 1 0 0 View
L 7 5th Sep 1953 Barrow LC1(1) 1953~54 A 13 14 0 0 0 View
W 5 31st Oct 1953 Workington Town L 1953~54 H 20 5 0 0 0 View
W 5 7th Nov 1953 Oldham L 1953~54 A 5 3 0 0 0 View
W 7 14th Nov 1953 Swinton L 1953~54 H 2 0 0 0 0 View
W 7 28th Nov 1953 Whitehaven L 1953~54 A 12 4 0 0 0 View
W 4 19th Dec 1953 Salford L 1953~54 A 11 7 0 0 0 View
W 4 25th Dec 1953 Leigh L 1953~54 H 11 9 0 0 0 View
W 4 26th Dec 1953 Wigan L 1953~54 H 14 4 0 0 0 View
L 4 2nd Jan 1954 Warrington L 1953~54 H 2 7 0 0 0 View
W 7 9th Jan 1954 Swinton L 1953~54 A 8 0 0 0 0 View
W 7 16th Jan 1954 Rochdale Hornets L 1953~54 H 28 5 0 0 0 View
W 7 23rd Jan 1954 Barrow L 1953~54 A 15 11 0 0 0 View
W 7 30th Jan 1954 Salford L 1953~54 H 29 0 0 0 0 View
W 7 13th Feb 1954 Featherstone Rovers CC1(1) 1953~54 H 26 7 1 0 0 View
W 7 17th Feb 1954 Featherstone Rovers CC1(2) 1953~54 A 27 16 1 0 0 View
D 7 20th Feb 1954 Halifax L 1953~54 H 5 5 0 0 0 View
L 7 27th Feb 1954 Warrington L 1953~54 A 8 12 0 0 0 View
L 7 6th Mar 1954 Huddersfield CC2 1953~54 A 5 12 0 0 0 View
L 7 13th Mar 1954 Rochdale Hornets L 1953~54 A 5 9 0 0 0 View
W 7 24th Mar 1954 Workington Town L 1953~54 A 15 7 0 0 0 View
W 7 3rd Apr 1954 Whitehaven L 1953~54 H 34 12 1 0 0 View
L 7 7th Apr 1954 Leigh L 1953~54 A 13 14 1 0 0 View
W 7 10th Apr 1954 Bramley L 1953~54 A 25 12 0 0 0 View
W 7 16th Apr 1954 Wigan L 1953~54 A 14 8 0 0 0 View
W 7 17th Apr 1954 Widnes L 1953~54 H 28 4 0 0 0 View
L 7 1st May 1954 Warrington ChSF 1953~54 A 0 11 0 0 0 View
L 7 7th Aug 1954 Barrow* Fr Ward Cup 1954~55 A 17 31 1 0 0 View
W 7 14th Aug 1954 Widnes L 1954~55 H 31 3 2 0 0 View
W 7 18th Aug 1954 Belle Vue Rangers L 1954~55 A 20 11 0 0 0 View
W 7 21st Aug 1954 Blackpool Borough L 1954~55 A 34 2 2 0 0 View
W 7 25th Aug 1954 Swinton L 1954~55 H 28 9 1 0 0 View
L 7 28th Aug 1954 Oldham L 1954~55 H 16 23 0 0 0 View
L 7 4th Sep 1954 Halifax L 1954~55 A 2 22 0 0 0 View
W 7 11th Sep 1954 Whitehaven LC1 1954~55 H 27 6 1 0 0 View
W 7 18th Sep 1954 Wakefield Trinity L 1954~55 A 32 18 0 0 0 View
L 7 20th Sep 1954 Oldham LC2 1954~55 A 9 20 0 0 0 View
W 7 25th Sep 1954 Huddersfield L 1954~55 H 20 7 0 0 0 View
L 7 19th Mar 1955 Workington Town CC3 1954~55 A 4 14 0 0 0 View
W 7 21st Mar 1955 Rochdale Hornets L 1954~55 H 23 3 0 0 0 View
W 7 26th Mar 1955 Salford L 1954~55 H 16 8 0 0 0 View
W 7 2nd Apr 1955 Belle Vue Rangers L 1954~55 H 31 0 0 0 0 View
L 7 8th Apr 1955 Wigan L 1954~55 A 12 16 0 0 0 View
W 7 9th Apr 1955 Halifax L 1954~55 H 14 8 0 0 0 View
L 7 11th Apr 1955 Huddersfield L 1954~55 A 11 35 0 0 0 View
L 7 18th Apr 1955 Barrow L 1954~55 A 3 26 0 0 0 View
W 7 26th Oct 1955 New Zealand Tour 1955~56 H 16 8 0 0 0 View
W 6 5th Nov 1955 Swinton L 1955~56 A 4 0 0 0 0 View
W 6 17th Dec 1955 Barrow L 1955~56 A 18 6 0 0 0 View
W 6 24th Dec 1955 Oldham L 1955~56 H 18 7 0 0 0 View
L 7 27th Dec 1955 Wigan L 1955~56 A 0 8 0 0 0 View
W 6 31st Dec 1955 Dewsbury L 1955~56 A 19 10 0 0 0 View
W 7 2nd Jan 1956 Leigh L 1955~56 A 20 6 0 0 0 View
W 6 7th Jan 1956 Salford L 1955~56 H 48 2 1 0 0 View
W 6 11th Feb 1956 Warrington CC1 1955~56 H 15 6 0 0 0 View
W 6 18th Feb 1956 Dewsbury L 1955~56 H 36 0 1 0 0 View
W 6 25th Feb 1956 Swinton L 1955~56 H 27 10 1 0 0 View
W 6 3rd Mar 1956 Castleford CC2 1955~56 H 48 5 2 0 0 View
L 6 10th Mar 1956 Warrington L 1955~56 A 4 17 0 0 0 View
L 6 14th Mar 1956 Halifax L 1955~56 A 0 12 0 0 0 View
W 6 24th Mar 1956 Bradford Northern CC3 1955~56 H 53 6 0 0 0 View
W 6 30th Mar 1956 Wigan L 1955~56 H 29 7 1 0 0 View
W 6 2nd Apr 1956 Rochdale Hornets L 1955~56 A 14 6 0 0 0 View
D 6 7th Apr 1956 Barrow CCSF 1955~56 N 5 5 0 0 0 View
W 6 11th Apr 1956 Barrow CCSF(rep) 1955~56 N 10 5 0 0 0 View
W 6 12th Apr 1956 Workington Town L 1955~56 A 12 9 0 0 0 View
L 6 21st Apr 1956 Halifax ChSF 1955~56 A 8 23 0 0 0 View
L 6 11th Aug 1956 Barrow* Fr Ward Cup 1956~57 H 22 24 0 0 0 View
W 6 18th Aug 1956 Widnes L 1956~57 H 29 0 1 0 0 View
W 6 20th Aug 1956 Liverpool City L 1956~57 A 56 5 0 0 0 View
W 6 25th Aug 1956 Bradford Northern L 1956~57 A 34 7 0 0 0 View
W 6 29th Aug 1956 Salford L 1956~57 H 40 0 0 0 0 View
W 6 1st Sep 1956 Swinton LC1 1956~57 H 27 7 1 0 0 View
L 6 8th Sep 1956 Oldham L 1956~57 H 16 25 0 0 0 View
L 6 15th Sep 1956 Hull L 1956~57 A 6 17 0 0 0 View
W 7 20th Sep 1956 Warrington LCSF 1956~57 A 17 9 0 0 0 View
W 7 22nd Sep 1956 Rochdale Hornets L 1956~57 H 49 11 1 0 0 View
W 7 29th Sep 1956 Blackpool Borough L 1956~57 A 58 5 1 0 0 View
W 7 6th Oct 1956 Liverpool City L 1956~57 H 25 5 0 0 0 View
W 7 13th Oct 1956 Salford L 1956~57 A 27 11 0 0 0 View
L 7 20th Oct 1956 Oldham LCF 1956~57 N 3 10 0 0 0 View
W 6 10th Nov 1956 Featherstone Rovers L 1956~57 H 21 16 1 0 0 View
L 6 14th Nov 1956 Featherstone Rovers L 1956~57 A 6 15 0 0 0 View
W 6 24th Nov 1956 Australia Tour 1956~57 H 44 2 1 0 0 View
W 6 1st Dec 1956 Huddersfield L 1956~57 H 51 4 0 0 0 View
L 6 8th Dec 1956 Oldham L 1956~57 A 8 9 1 0 0 View
W 6 15th Dec 1956 Widnes L 1956~57 A 10 2 1 0 0 View
W 6 22nd Dec 1956 Whitehaven L 1956~57 H 37 6 0 0 0 View
D 6 25th Dec 1956 Leigh L 1956~57 A 7 7 0 0 0 View
D 6 29th Dec 1956 Warrington L 1956~57 A 8 8 0 0 0 View
W 6 1st Jan 1957 Leigh L 1956~57 H 18 14 0 0 0 View
W 4 6th Jan 1957 Warrington L 1956~57 H 33 7 1 0 0 View
W 3 12th Jan 1957 Swinton L 1956~57 A 14 9 0 0 0 View
L 3 19th Jan 1957 Leeds L 1956~57 A 11 22 0 0 0 View
W 3 2nd Feb 1957 Rochdale Hornets L 1956~57 A 23 8 0 0 0 View
L 4 9th Feb 1957 Whitehaven CC1 1956~57 A 8 9 0 0 0 View
W 6 2nd Mar 1957 Halifax L 1956~57 H 31 7 0 0 0 View
L 6 9th Mar 1957 Wigan L 1956~57 H 11 20 0 0 0 View
W 2 20th Mar 1957 Halifax L 1956~57 A 10 4 0 0 0 View
W 2 23rd Mar 1957 Huddersfield L 1956~57 A 10 9 0 0 0 View
W 2 3rd Apr 1957 Whitehaven L 1956~57 A 5 2 0 0 0 View
W 2 13th Apr 1957 Swinton L 1956~57 H 34 0 0 0 0 View
L 2 15th Apr 1957 Barrow L 1956~57 A 8 11 0 0 0 View
L 2 20th Apr 1957 Workington Town L 1956~57 A 3 26 0 0 0 View
W 6 24th Aug 1957 Hunslet L 1957~58 H 30 9 0 0 0 View
W 3 21st Sep 1957 Swinton L 1957~58 A 16 14 0 0 0 View


*Unofficial Match.
**Non Playing Sub.
CALCULATED APPEARANCES : OFFICIAL 152 OTHER 8 = 160
ACTUAL APPEARANCES (inc 0 Subs) = 160
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